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tigmaster · 12-24-2007, 05:21 PM

well, im not going to argue either, just gonna toss in my opinion. first off, a steel frame is always stronger than an aluminum frame. i am happy to know about these maintenance problems, as far as taking big parts off to get to little parts. what models does this apply to? personally, i want an aluminum frame for one major reason, no painting required. this not only means that i dont have to worry about scratches and the rust caused from the scratches but now i do not have to worry about my frame rusting from the inside out. it is not uncommon for a steel frame to crack in half from rust on the inside. i think manufactures thought they were going to save like 10lbs on a frame and after the first wobbly pieces of crap aluminum frames came out they realized that 100s of gussets would be their solution. that is why they only save like 2 lbs from the steel to aluminum switch. aluminum is much weaker than steel and requires much more support not just to keep it from breaking but because the fatigue life of aluminum is much less than that of steel. if it was just the weight diff, i would see no need for an aluminum frame personally but i really like the no paint feature. and on a slightly dif topic but one i feel i should discuss even though it has no pertinence to this topic would be materials in general. now this is not directed to any of you because i assume you already know this but to future readers i want to give a heads up. first thing i want to go over is the fact that TITANIUM IS NOT STRONGER THAN STEEL! it is not a magic metal. granted its strength to weight ratio is outstanding, however it is not stronger than steel. it weighs more than aluminum but is close to the strength of steel. this makes it great in some cases but if just plain brute strength is needed, steel is still the choice today. second topic is billet materials. i once read a post by this kid instructing someone to purchase all the aluminum AND billet items he could. billet is not a material in itself, it is a machined version of the material. it means that the product was not cast, making it stronger because there is no chance for casting flaws. there, that is what i have to say. o and i weld aluminum, 20 bucks a bead, lol jk but seriously i do weld aluminum and if anyone ever needs anything, dont hesitate to ask you friendly tigmaster. lol

12-24-2007, 05:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,489	well, im not going to argue either, just gonna toss in my opinion. first off, a steel frame is always stronger than an aluminum frame. i am happy to know about these maintenance problems, as far as taking big parts off to get to little parts. what models does this apply to? personally, i want an aluminum frame for one major reason, no painting required. this not only means that i dont have to worry about scratches and the rust caused from the scratches but now i do not have to worry about my frame rusting from the inside out. it is not uncommon for a steel frame to crack in half from rust on the inside. i think manufactures thought they were going to save like 10lbs on a frame and after the first wobbly pieces of crap aluminum frames came out they realized that 100s of gussets would be their solution. that is why they only save like 2 lbs from the steel to aluminum switch. aluminum is much weaker than steel and requires much more support not just to keep it from breaking but because the fatigue life of aluminum is much less than that of steel. if it was just the weight diff, i would see no need for an aluminum frame personally but i really like the no paint feature. and on a slightly dif topic but one i feel i should discuss even though it has no pertinence to this topic would be materials in general. now this is not directed to any of you because i assume you already know this but to future readers i want to give a heads up. first thing i want to go over is the fact that TITANIUM IS NOT STRONGER THAN STEEL! it is not a magic metal. granted its strength to weight ratio is outstanding, however it is not stronger than steel. it weighs more than aluminum but is close to the strength of steel. this makes it great in some cases but if just plain brute strength is needed, steel is still the choice today. second topic is billet materials. i once read a post by this kid instructing someone to purchase all the aluminum AND billet items he could. billet is not a material in itself, it is a machined version of the material. it means that the product was not cast, making it stronger because there is no chance for casting flaws. there, that is what i have to say. o and i weld aluminum, 20 bucks a bead, lol jk but seriously i do weld aluminum and if anyone ever needs anything, dont hesitate to ask you friendly tigmaster. lol __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here