2 stroke and 4 stroke help

BigBen09 · 10-10-2007, 06:23 PM

ok i have had both a 2 stroke and a 4 strock, but it has been about 8 years ago when i was about 12 or so. i know about the oil gas mixture with the 2 strokes, but i can decide what i want. my question is what is the big difference in the 2 stroke and the 4 stroke performance wise. this might not be in the right spot but i am new sorry.

wr250f95 · 10-10-2007, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigBen09

ok i have had both a 2 stroke and a 4 strock, but it has been about 8 years ago when i was about 12 or so. i know about the oil gas mixture with the 2 strokes, but i can decide what i want. my question is what is the big difference in the 2 stroke and the 4 stroke performance wise. this might not be in the right spot but i am new sorry.

welcome ben
the 4 stroke creates more power over a wider range of rpm's.
the 2 stroke creates a little less power, but only in a certain rpm range.
The power band can be felt alot more on a 2 stroke.
The 2 stroke is lighter, cheaper to maintain, and many feel more fun to ride.
Hope I helped and welcome to the site again

JThompson · 10-10-2007, 07:18 PM

Its all a matter of what you are looking for. I have always felt a 2 stroke has snappier power then a 4 stroke... But with the 4 stroke it is more consistent power... My 2 cents..

Welcome to the board and looking forward to reading your posts.

tigmaster · 10-10-2007, 07:23 PM

well, heres a few basics but if you want more then check out this thread:
http://www.mototips.com/advanced-tec...-2s-vs-4s.html

basics are as follows:

2 Strokes: slightly high hp rating, only produce peak power in a small RPM range, harder to ride as in the right gear needs to always be selected, usually 5-10lbs lighter than the comparable 4 stroke model, ALWAYS CHEAPER. overall a 2 stroke is a great model if cash is tight not only for buying the bike but for routine maintenance.

4 Strokes: usually 1hp lower than a comparable 2 stroke, huge peak power throughout the entire RPM range with peak power starting at 2500RPM's usually with no dropoff on the top end, 4 strokes also now rev higher than 2 strokes and still produce their peak hp durring this, along with this immense power goes the fact that it doesnt matter what gear you are in just grab some throttle and it will haul on, slightly heavier about the dif in feeling between a full and empty gas tank weight, much pricier and require much more maintenance including oil changes and valve shimming.

personally i have a huge bias to 4 strokes but they are a bit pricier. they also offer many more upgrades that you couldnt get with a 2 stroke such as cams and lighter valves. personally i would say get a 4 stroke but its gonna cost you. wait until winter if u want a deal. right now they are going low at $3500 on ebay and i only paid $2000 for my 2004 rmz250. granted, i dropped another $2000 in high performance mods. and always, buy an mx series bike if u can. also, im not sure if you know this so ill just say it, a 125 2stroke = 250 4stroke and a 250 2stroke = 450 4stroke.

wr250f95 · 10-10-2007, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tigmaster

well, heres a few basics but if you want more then check out this thread:
http://www.mototips.com/advanced-tec...-2s-vs-4s.html

basics are as follows:

2 Strokes: slightly high hp rating, only produce peak power in a small RPM range, harder to ride as in the right gear needs to always be selected, usually 5-10lbs lighter than the comparable 4 stroke model, ALWAYS CHEAPER. overall a 2 stroke is a great model if cash is tight not only for buying the bike but for routine maintenance.

4 Strokes: usually 1hp lower than a comparable 2 stroke, huge peak power throughout the entire RPM range with peak power starting at 2500RPM's usually with no dropoff on the top end, 4 strokes also now rev higher than 2 strokes and still produce their peak hp durring this, along with this immense power goes the fact that it doesnt matter what gear you are in just grab some throttle and it will haul on, slightly heavier about the dif in feeling between a full and empty gas tank weight, much pricier and require much more maintenance including oil changes and valve shimming.

personally i have a huge bias to 4 strokes but they are a bit pricier. they also offer many more upgrades that you couldnt get with a 2 stroke such as cams and lighter valves. personally i would say get a 4 stroke but its gonna cost you. wait until winter if u want a deal. right now they are going low at $3500 on ebay and i only paid $2000 for my 2004 rmz250. granted, i dropped another $2000 in high performance mods. and always, buy an mx series bike if u can. also, im not sure if you know this so ill just say it, a 125 2stroke = 250 4stroke and a 250 2stroke = 450 4stroke.

thats because 2 strokes are a valveless type lol.
imo they both have their strong suits, pick the one you like

tigmaster · 10-10-2007, 08:03 PM

ya, but the 4's rev higher now with stock parts so if u are already not loosing power then when u upgrade u just get more free power.

wr250f95 · 10-10-2007, 08:04 PM

ya hot cams are great.
tig you saying ya all the time rubbed off on me.

tigmaster · 10-10-2007, 08:05 PM

sorry, i also usually start out with an interjectction like so or however. i plan on getting a set of hot cams soon.

wr250f95 · 10-10-2007, 08:17 PM

no no i was just telling you that it got in my head and i automaticly say it now.

tigmaster · 10-11-2007, 04:37 AM

thats good that even on a forum where no spoken words happen people still pick up other peoples use of vocabulary.

10-10-2007, 06:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigBen09 C Rider Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1	2 stroke and 4 stroke help ok i have had both a 2 stroke and a 4 strock, but it has been about 8 years ago when i was about 12 or so. i know about the oil gas mixture with the 2 strokes, but i can decide what i want. my question is what is the big difference in the 2 stroke and the 4 stroke performance wise. this might not be in the right spot but i am new sorry.

10-10-2007, 07:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,626	Its all a matter of what you are looking for. I have always felt a 2 stroke has snappier power then a 4 stroke... But with the 4 stroke it is more consistent power... My 2 cents.. Welcome to the board and looking forward to reading your posts. __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

10-10-2007, 07:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,231	well, heres a few basics but if you want more then check out this thread: http://www.mototips.com/advanced-tec...-2s-vs-4s.html basics are as follows: 2 Strokes: slightly high hp rating, only produce peak power in a small RPM range, harder to ride as in the right gear needs to always be selected, usually 5-10lbs lighter than the comparable 4 stroke model, ALWAYS CHEAPER. overall a 2 stroke is a great model if cash is tight not only for buying the bike but for routine maintenance. 4 Strokes: usually 1hp lower than a comparable 2 stroke, huge peak power throughout the entire RPM range with peak power starting at 2500RPM's usually with no dropoff on the top end, 4 strokes also now rev higher than 2 strokes and still produce their peak hp durring this, along with this immense power goes the fact that it doesnt matter what gear you are in just grab some throttle and it will haul on, slightly heavier about the dif in feeling between a full and empty gas tank weight, much pricier and require much more maintenance including oil changes and valve shimming. personally i have a huge bias to 4 strokes but they are a bit pricier. they also offer many more upgrades that you couldnt get with a 2 stroke such as cams and lighter valves. personally i would say get a 4 stroke but its gonna cost you. wait until winter if u want a deal. right now they are going low at $3500 on ebay and i only paid $2000 for my 2004 rmz250. granted, i dropped another $2000 in high performance mods. and always, buy an mx series bike if u can. also, im not sure if you know this so ill just say it, a 125 2stroke = 250 4stroke and a 250 2stroke = 450 4stroke. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

10-10-2007, 08:03 PM	#6 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,231	ya, but the 4's rev higher now with stock parts so if u are already not loosing power then when u upgrade u just get more free power. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

10-10-2007, 08:04 PM	#7 (permalink)
wr250f95 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,392	ya hot cams are great. tig you saying ya all the time rubbed off on me. __________________ "LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING'...HOLY S**T... WHAT A RIDE!" this, is why I ride.

10-10-2007, 08:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,231	sorry, i also usually start out with an interjectction like so or however. i plan on getting a set of hot cams soon. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

10-10-2007, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
wr250f95 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,392	no no i was just telling you that it got in my head and i automaticly say it now. __________________ "LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING'...HOLY S**T... WHAT A RIDE!" this, is why I ride.

10-11-2007, 04:37 AM	#10 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,231	thats good that even on a forum where no spoken words happen people still pick up other peoples use of vocabulary. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

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