Advantages of synthetic oil

JThompson · 09-17-2006, 02:12 PM

The industry recognizes the following benefits for synthetic motor oils:

Improved viscosity at low temperatures. Mineral oils tend to include wax impurities which coagulate at lower temperatures. A typical 10W-30 oil remains liquid at -50 °C (-58 °F)

Better high temperature performance. Synthetic oils have few low molecular weight hydrocarbons which evaporate at high temperatures.

Higher purity

Decreased oil consumption

Reduced friction and engine wear

Improved fuel consumption through better engine lubrication

Resistance to oil sludge problems

Crude oil doesn't have to be used for the production of the lubricants

Some synthetic motor oil producers offer extended intervals between oil changes (extended drain intervals)

Reduction of environmental impact (due to lower oil consumption)

tigmaster · 03-26-2007, 04:51 AM

one thing to remember though with synthetic is that it is much more fluid. it consists of much smaller particls, ya thats wat i was trying to say. anyway when you run regular oil for a while and then switch to synthetic, leaks can occour. many people notice this more so in their vehicles, but it happens in dirt bikes too. if this happens to you dont worry. you can switch back. but now you now that an oil seal or gasket is not up to spec so u might want to replace it. all in all synthetic is a much better oil for lubrication just beware of its properties.

JThompson · 03-26-2007, 03:42 PM

Wow thats a great tip. Thank goodness i have never expierenced that!

tigmaster · 03-26-2007, 05:57 PM

ya not a huge percentage of dirt bikers experience this problem seeing as everything is made with more exacting standards and bikes are much newer than automobiles. however a lot of people sure have problems with synthetic in their cars.

JThompson · 03-29-2007, 10:18 PM

A tip with synthetic in cars. If your car is under warrenty there really is no point in using synthetic oil as you will still need to prove you change your oil every 3000 - 5000 miles if you go in for any warranty work. The cost is just that much greater and when you are not going 10k + miles between oil changes then it really is not worth it from the cost prespective.

tigmaster · 06-11-2007, 07:51 AM

i made a transition to semi-synthetic with maxima semi-synthetic 10W40 and report no trouble at all. also after one ride the oil appeared to be cleaner and all parts appeared to be oiled very nicely. i think i will stick with semi-syn because it is a proven better lubricator and i do not have the will test spend any more money for full syn and do not want to chance it.

Wopstar · 06-11-2007, 10:05 PM

Yes I do not recommend runnning synthetic any any high mileage car or bike. The oil will literally create new leaks and make old ones worse. I use synthetic in my bike and in my Yukon but I put normal Valvoline or Quaker State in my Jeep but then I add a quart of Lucas. Lucas is one of the if not the best oil additive.

tigmaster · 06-12-2007, 07:59 AM

ya i always play with their models at auto zone, the ones where they have gears running in lucas and another set in regular oil. u can turn them and feel the diff. ya synthetic really can be a pain in high mileage cars, the problem arises because the particles in synthetic oil are muchg smaller than those of regular oil. so worn gaskets and oil seals are just asking for a leak.

09-17-2006, 02:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,624	Advantages of synthetic oil The industry recognizes the following benefits for synthetic motor oils: Improved viscosity at low temperatures. Mineral oils tend to include wax impurities which coagulate at lower temperatures. A typical 10W-30 oil remains liquid at -50 °C (-58 °F) Better high temperature performance. Synthetic oils have few low molecular weight hydrocarbons which evaporate at high temperatures. Higher purity Decreased oil consumption Reduced friction and engine wear Improved fuel consumption through better engine lubrication Resistance to oil sludge problems Crude oil doesn't have to be used for the production of the lubricants Some synthetic motor oil producers offer extended intervals between oil changes (extended drain intervals) Reduction of environmental impact (due to lower oil consumption) __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

03-26-2007, 04:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,234	one thing to remember though with synthetic is that it is much more fluid. it consists of much smaller particls, ya thats wat i was trying to say. anyway when you run regular oil for a while and then switch to synthetic, leaks can occour. many people notice this more so in their vehicles, but it happens in dirt bikes too. if this happens to you dont worry. you can switch back. but now you now that an oil seal or gasket is not up to spec so u might want to replace it. all in all synthetic is a much better oil for lubrication just beware of its properties. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

03-26-2007, 03:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,624	Wow thats a great tip. Thank goodness i have never expierenced that! __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

03-26-2007, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,234	ya not a huge percentage of dirt bikers experience this problem seeing as everything is made with more exacting standards and bikes are much newer than automobiles. however a lot of people sure have problems with synthetic in their cars. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

03-29-2007, 10:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,624	A tip with synthetic in cars. If your car is under warrenty there really is no point in using synthetic oil as you will still need to prove you change your oil every 3000 - 5000 miles if you go in for any warranty work. The cost is just that much greater and when you are not going 10k + miles between oil changes then it really is not worth it from the cost prespective. __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

06-11-2007, 07:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,234	i made a transition to semi-synthetic with maxima semi-synthetic 10W40 and report no trouble at all. also after one ride the oil appeared to be cleaner and all parts appeared to be oiled very nicely. i think i will stick with semi-syn because it is a proven better lubricator and i do not have the will test spend any more money for full syn and do not want to chance it. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

06-11-2007, 10:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
Wopstar A Rider Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Havasu Arizona Posts: 858	Yes I do not recommend runnning synthetic any any high mileage car or bike. The oil will literally create new leaks and make old ones worse. I use synthetic in my bike and in my Yukon but I put normal Valvoline or Quaker State in my Jeep but then I add a quart of Lucas. Lucas is one of the if not the best oil additive.

06-12-2007, 07:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,234	ya i always play with their models at auto zone, the ones where they have gears running in lucas and another set in regular oil. u can turn them and feel the diff. ya synthetic really can be a pain in high mileage cars, the problem arises because the particles in synthetic oil are muchg smaller than those of regular oil. so worn gaskets and oil seals are just asking for a leak. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

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