aluminum or steel? - Page 2

wr250f95 · 12-24-2007, 09:54 PM

2 pounds isnt really an issue for me. Evidently youve never worked on the aluminum framed yz's/wr's.

tigmaster · 12-25-2007, 12:42 AM

no, but i know the cr's arent that bad. like i said, 2lbs doesnt mean anything to me, its the dif between a full tank and a half tank of gas. i just like not having to worry about rust.

turtlemann14 · 12-25-2007, 07:19 AM

hay the way i see it the more you ride the stronger you get but the longer you ride the weaker your frame gets, i like steel as well.
the lack of rust is a great feature of aluminum but i love to be able to fix my own frame from parts from the local hardware store

why don't we coat our bike frames with chrome on nickel? prevent rust untill you manage to get it to scrape off. little harder than paint and it looks good to

tigmaster · 12-25-2007, 01:11 PM

ya, it would be nice, or why dont we just get some new material instead that is even harder to weld like titanium. did you know that when you weld titanium you need an argon cloud around not only the side you are welding but also the back of the joint too. say you are welding on a pipe, you actually have to tape everything off and purge the inside of the pipe with argon if you want a good weld.

gscx · 12-25-2007, 04:35 PM

coating the fames with nickel would be expensive and heavy and chrome would just be heavy, powdercoating like KTM has is the best way to go for steel, and aluminum just wont rust.

tigmaster · 12-25-2007, 06:36 PM

even pc aluminum looks nice. i enjoy the anodized aluminum frames.

wr250f95 · 12-25-2007, 06:44 PM

for some reason Im happy with the plain jane look of my bike and dont really want to change much.
When you start anodizing stuff its easy to get carried away.

turtlemann14 · 12-25-2007, 07:34 PM

you think a coat of metal that thin would make a noticeable difference?

tigmaster · 12-25-2007, 08:10 PM

yes, it would weigh a lot more. one thing people do not realize about anodized parts is that they are actually stronger. i talked my chemistry teacher into letting me anodize some parts during class one day. good stuff.

turtlemann14 · 12-25-2007, 08:36 PM

humph i am going to know a lot more by the end of next year thats for sure...
you can only anodize aluminum though right?

12-24-2007, 09:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
wr250f95 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 8,447 iTrader: (1)	2 pounds isnt really an issue for me. Evidently youve never worked on the aluminum framed yz's/wr's. __________________ "LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING'...HOLY S**T... WHAT A RIDE!" this, is why I ride.

12-25-2007, 12:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,659 iTrader: (1)	no, but i know the cr's arent that bad. like i said, 2lbs doesnt mean anything to me, its the dif between a full tank and a half tank of gas. i just like not having to worry about rust. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

12-25-2007, 07:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 4,360 iTrader: (0)	hay the way i see it the more you ride the stronger you get but the longer you ride the weaker your frame gets, i like steel as well. the lack of rust is a great feature of aluminum but i love to be able to fix my own frame from parts from the local hardware store why don't we coat our bike frames with chrome on nickel? prevent rust untill you manage to get it to scrape off. little harder than paint and it looks good to __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

12-25-2007, 01:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,659 iTrader: (1)	ya, it would be nice, or why dont we just get some new material instead that is even harder to weld like titanium. did you know that when you weld titanium you need an argon cloud around not only the side you are welding but also the back of the joint too. say you are welding on a pipe, you actually have to tape everything off and purge the inside of the pipe with argon if you want a good weld. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

12-25-2007, 04:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
gscx Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: bridgeville DE Posts: 2,319 iTrader: (0)	coating the fames with nickel would be expensive and heavy and chrome would just be heavy, powdercoating like KTM has is the best way to go for steel, and aluminum just wont rust. __________________ 199? KX60- Bone stock and in process of complete rebuild and restoration

12-25-2007, 06:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,659 iTrader: (1)	even pc aluminum looks nice. i enjoy the anodized aluminum frames. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

12-25-2007, 06:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
wr250f95 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 8,447 iTrader: (1)	for some reason Im happy with the plain jane look of my bike and dont really want to change much. When you start anodizing stuff its easy to get carried away. __________________ "LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING'...HOLY S**T... WHAT A RIDE!" this, is why I ride.

12-25-2007, 07:34 PM	#18 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 4,360 iTrader: (0)	you think a coat of metal that thin would make a noticeable difference? __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

12-25-2007, 08:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,659 iTrader: (1)	yes, it would weigh a lot more. one thing people do not realize about anodized parts is that they are actually stronger. i talked my chemistry teacher into letting me anodize some parts during class one day. good stuff. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

12-25-2007, 08:36 PM	#20 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 4,360 iTrader: (0)	humph i am going to know a lot more by the end of next year thats for sure... you can only anodize aluminum though right? __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

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