Will it still run??? - Page 7

turtlemann14 · 03-03-2008, 04:49 PM

did it not behave like this before?
does this bike have a hot start lever or an auto decompression?
maybe it was not hooked up correctly?

(on my 200 there is a cable running from about where the kick starter lever is to the head. when you kick the bike it loosens the chain in the valve train so that there is less compression making it easier to start.)

turtlemann14 · 03-03-2008, 09:07 PM

do you use the choke after it has been sitting?

once a bike has been running you normally do not need to use the choke.
when you have it idling and you quickly give it gas does it bog or does it rev immediately?

some bikes do require some throttle to start, you may need to set the idle up a little bit

Deltascoutsniper · 03-04-2008, 01:10 PM

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Deltascoutsniper · 03-04-2008, 01:13 PM

Sorry i couldnt make em smaller

tigmaster · 03-04-2008, 01:50 PM

I am pretty sure only the FCR carbs have a hot start turtle. I guess I am going to get into this discussion now. What is going on with the bike?

turtlemann14 · 03-04-2008, 03:07 PM

he said that it is running rich... the plug was black after about 30 seconds

the timing has been fixed. it just up to adjusting the carb now...

tigmaster · 03-04-2008, 03:14 PM

Was anything done to the carburetor? Things don't just get off without someone touching something. Well at least rich that is.

turtlemann14 · 03-04-2008, 03:39 PM

it has been cleaned
do you think the pilot jet is out to far?

i thing this is the pilot jet on this carb

Deltascoutsniper · 03-04-2008, 09:11 PM

i had the carb cleaned TIG besides that other stuff thats been done to the bike is new valves and a new piston what the problem is i can let it sit for a day kit it a few times and itll run for about 30 seconds then itll shut off and want start bike sometimes after kickin it about a million times itll act like it wants to start when i started it the other day alot of black smoke came from it and the pug end was solid black after that

Edit: the problem with the bike before i got it was the intake valve broke off and knocked a hole in the piston i figured it was ran to hot but what ever caused that might still be whats wrong with it but i have no idea why it broke the valve off like that before

turtlemann14 · 03-05-2008, 01:52 PM

if it is running that rich it is not running hot...

it really sounds like the fuel system is clogged
but you said that you checked that right?

03-03-2008, 04:49 PM	#61 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 3,986 iTrader: (0)	did it not behave like this before? does this bike have a hot start lever or an auto decompression? maybe it was not hooked up correctly? (on my 200 there is a cable running from about where the kick starter lever is to the head. when you kick the bike it loosens the chain in the valve train so that there is less compression making it easier to start.) __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

03-03-2008, 09:07 PM	#62 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 3,986 iTrader: (0)	do you use the choke after it has been sitting? once a bike has been running you normally do not need to use the choke. when you have it idling and you quickly give it gas does it bog or does it rev immediately? some bikes do require some throttle to start, you may need to set the idle up a little bit __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

03-04-2008, 01:10 PM	#63 (permalink)
Deltascoutsniper C Rider Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	[IMG][/IMG]

03-04-2008, 01:50 PM	#65 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,526 iTrader: (1)	I am pretty sure only the FCR carbs have a hot start turtle. I guess I am going to get into this discussion now. What is going on with the bike? __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

03-04-2008, 03:07 PM	#66 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 3,986 iTrader: (0)	he said that it is running rich... the plug was black after about 30 seconds the timing has been fixed. it just up to adjusting the carb now... __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

03-04-2008, 01:13 PM	#64 (permalink)
Deltascoutsniper C Rider Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	Sorry i couldnt make em smaller

03-04-2008, 03:14 PM	#67 (permalink)
tigmaster Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Missouri, United States Posts: 7,526 iTrader: (1)	Was anything done to the carburetor? Things don't just get off without someone touching something. Well at least rich that is. __________________ --'03 CRF450r-- --FMF Pipe, Pro-Tech Revavle-- --Vortex Basket With Tusk Disks And HP Springs-- --Pro Taper Triple Clamps And Bars-- --Devol Full SP With Moose HGs-- --Renthal 13/50 With R1 Chain-- --Now It Is The End, Probably...-- --'06 CBR F4I-- --Bone Stock-- Check Our Latest How-To Here

03-04-2008, 03:39 PM	#68 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 3,986 iTrader: (0)	it has been cleaned do you think the pilot jet is out to far? i thing this is the pilot jet on this carb __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

03-04-2008, 09:11 PM	#69 (permalink)
Deltascoutsniper C Rider Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 15 iTrader: (0)	i had the carb cleaned TIG besides that other stuff thats been done to the bike is new valves and a new piston what the problem is i can let it sit for a day kit it a few times and itll run for about 30 seconds then itll shut off and want start bike sometimes after kickin it about a million times itll act like it wants to start when i started it the other day alot of black smoke came from it and the pug end was solid black after that Edit: the problem with the bike before i got it was the intake valve broke off and knocked a hole in the piston i figured it was ran to hot but what ever caused that might still be whats wrong with it but i have no idea why it broke the valve off like that before Last edited by Deltascoutsniper; 03-04-2008 at 09:14 PM.

03-05-2008, 01:52 PM	#70 (permalink)
turtlemann14 Pro Mototips Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 3,986 iTrader: (0)	if it is running that rich it is not running hot... it really sounds like the fuel system is clogged but you said that you checked that right? __________________ If it does not move at first, get a bigger hammer!! Myspace Yamaha 1982 xj550 under bike lights Kawasaki klx250 1979 custom fiberglass silencer+ Honda xr200r 1985 stock = Dakaw Dk250 2008

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