DAVO

tig dont know where u r gettin yr bhp from but u r wrong 230f kicks out 18bhp crf250 kicks out 43bhp crf450 kicks out 54 bhp i hav honda o7 brochure in front of me with all the bike's spec's if the lad is not use 2 ridin alot 18bhp will do him its only for fun not racin remember he plays in woods & on little jump doesn need any think 2 big

tigmaster

k then lets talk rwhp. check out the dyno for a crf250r attached. where it says max power 33hp and this is a dyno so its rwhp...... so 34rwhp. granted you may be gettin a tad more at the crank, like 37bhp(isnt that what i said????) but nowhere near 43. this is how it is in the US. things are generally slower here. also, no one really cares about bhp, its all about rwhp. you cant really get too much information out of bhp.

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DAVO

bhp does tell u alot & we r talkin about bhp not wrhp & i think honda book know alittle bit more than u like i said crf250 kick out 43bhp o7 model weight 103.2kg max poweroutput38.5kw/9'000 min-1(95/1/ec)(43bhp) and i will later get manual for crf250 & write down all spec plus u say its max power is 33hp my 94 rm125 has more than that 40hp .anyone else wish 2 join in

tigmaster

k so do you know what bhp is???? because bhp is measured at the crank! therefore one company can claim a higher bhp than another and still have a slower bike. all that matters is what you are getting to the rear wheel. nothing else matters. inefficiencies in gearbox construction and driveline drop this hp. therefore if you actually would like to compare useful data, you compare rwhp and if you really want to have some useful data, always compare power to weight ratios instead. also, if you claim that honda is producing 43bhp, then they are doing a very terrible job of routing that power to the rear wheel. tell me, how did they loose 10hp in the process. my old rmz250 was titled at 37.5bhp and produces 33rwhp. so..... maybe in the uk, but not in the US is honda producing a 43bhp crf250r. and i like how you say anyone else wish to join in. also, your rm125 does not have 40rwhp. so have a look at this article from transworldmotocross:
Mod Squad: RPMs SUZUKI RM167
funny, they claim 29.3rwhp from their 2001 rm125.... did you get the big bore kit they were talking about because even their big bore rm167 was only pushing 39.5rwhp. man you should have told them you had a 40hp rm125 so they could have saved themselves all the trouble of adding another 45cc's. dont even start yourself a fight that you cant win. all i see from you is claims, not factual evidence. while i have provided numerous links and graphs backing up every single claim i have made.

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DAVO

dude dont cat fight with me when ive got it in black & white im older & wiser than u u what 2 read what u say cos u back track yrself alot i will sent u a web site all about suzuki bikes then tell me my bike hasn got 40hp

tigmaster

i will. i have showed you an article published by twmx saying 29.3. while all you can do is say things. also, tell me how "cat fighting" with you is disproving every bit of claim you had with factual evidence. also, you may be able to claim older than me, but its just funny when you get taken down by a 17 year old kid who obviously knows more than you.

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DAVO

check it out write suzuki rm-rmx motorcrosser & u will find the site

tigmaster

just provide me with a link

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DAVO

look at 95 yr its claims 40hp i think 2oo1 claims 41hp & it is in hp try All Suzuki Motorcycles Ever Built check it out u will c i know what im talkin about if i could send u the spec ive got on honda i would but got no way of doin that tig im not here 2 cat fight just pastin on what i know

tigmaster

well you do realize that they do not do dyno runs on the entire bike, just the engine. therefore brochure ratings are given in bhp. sorry you didnt know that.

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