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Old 08-23-2007, 11:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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hey tigmaster i have two bike that i will be rebuilding before the next season
one's a 92 yz 125 and the other is a 93 kx 500 what oil ratio should i use on these bike for the break in and after. and also that break in procedure about how long total time does it take. thanks for the info
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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u can easily get away with 32:1. a lot of people dont even change up their mixture for break in but its really suggested. after, if u plan on using synthetic then u can run anywhere between 40:1 and 50:1. mineral oil, stick with 40:1. wat did u run before? if it was different then u need to rejet, heres the how-to article on it: http://www.mototips.com/how-tos-perf...your-ride.html

as far as break in time, around an hour. i think i list times in this break in article.
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ya, but you dont want to mix synthetic with mineral remember that
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yes, lets all remember that lesson!!!!!!!!!
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ya i had to learn the hard way remeber
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ya, i still can believe that you had your engine be destroyed by mixing 2 different OILS. its not like you didnt have oil, just to sets of them that combined with the gas differently. think about other oils, such as synthetic blend. they mix synthetic with mineral oil....
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ya i will definetly stick to one 2-cycle mix on my 500 when i get it rebuilt. i can't wait to feel the power. i just want tho thank you and wr250f95 for all your guys knowledge. oh ya how can you tell if your putting the piston in backwards. thanks
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there are alignment marks, either a dot or arrow that should go towards the front of the engine.
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ya like tig said, helping is not a problem, its what forums were created for
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Great article. Mostly.

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well a lot of people believe that "heat cycling" the rings will give good seating results but if u look at the actual breakdown of metal, this does nothing for it. also lots of other people say it does nothing. really all u need to do is check it between runs for any leaks or loose bolts. yes my break-in procedure worked quite well for me.
As a machinist who deals with metal heating and cooling, expanding and contracting, and literally changing it's molecular and even it's metallurgical makeup on a daily basis, I can assure you that letting your motor cool during the break in period DOES do a lot more good than not letting it cool.

All one needs to do is study the effects of thermal expansion, annealing and other effects of heat on metal to realize that the motor should be allowed to expand and contract during it's break-in period uniformly. That's why it is suggested that you "let the motor warm up completely" before breaking it in, because you don't want some of the parts warm and the other's cold.

Different metals, and indeed, different thicknesses of the same metal, will expand and contract at different rates. So letting the motor sit for 5 minutes while you look things over will allow some parts to contract from cooling, while others remain hot.

Then you jump back on and start going 1/2 or full throttle, and you're essentially running it with the smaller parts cold and the bigger parts hot. Not a widely recommended procedure.
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