New Comment Deadline On U.s. Forest Service Attempt To Implement An Unlawful "de-fact

JThompson · 02-19-2008, 12:51 PM

NEW COMMENT DEADLINE ON U.S. FOREST SERVICE ATTEMPT TO IMPLEMENT AN UNLAWFUL "DE-FACTO WILDERNESS" POLICY

A few years ago, a small select group of employees in the U.S. Forest Service in Missoula, Montana developed an unlawful, de-facto Wilderness policy designed to close 1.3 million acres to all mountain bike, snowmobile and OHV use.
1.3 million acres of de-facto Wilderness established in the dead of the night, with a stroke of a pen, and without any public involvement.
Idaho's Clearwater National Forest is the first individual Forest in Region 1 (in northern Idaho and Montana) that has attempted site-specific implementation of the de-facto Wilderness policy. But it won't be the last.
We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take action today!
SITUATION:
The comment period deadline on the draft winter and summer Travel Plan for the Clearwater National Forest is set for February 29, 2008. This is the first time a National Forest in Region 1 has attempted site-specific implementation of their new (and unlawful) de-facto Wilderness policy. COMMENTS ARE URGENTLY NEEDED!
WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT:

What De-Facto Wilderness Means to You:

Clearwater NF RWA: 200,000 acres
Number of acres of snowmobiling closed = 200,000 acres
Miles of single track motorcycle trails closed = 140 miles
Miles of mountain bike trails closed = UNKNOWN
Beaverhead-Deerlodge RWA: 174,000 acres
Gallatin NF RWA: 180,000 acres
Lewis & Clark RWA: 56,000 acres
Lolo NF RWA: 216,000 acres
Kooteni NF RWA: 117,000 acres
Idaho Panhandle NF RWA: 138,000 acres
Helena NF RWA: 34,000 acres
Flathead NF RWA: 93,000 acres
Custer NF RWA: 19.000 acres
Bitterroot NF RWA: 76,000 acres
TOTAL CLOSED = 1,303,000 ACRES
Warning: Information above is estimated. Actual acreage figures are likely to increase when new Forest Plans become final.
WHAT YOU NEED TO DO:
Send a simple email comment to the Clearwater.
Here is a link to Clearwater's Travel Plan webpage: http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/clearwater/Projects/TravPlan/ClwTravel.htm
The email address is: comments-northern-clearwater@fs.fed.us
IMPORTANT: Put "Comments on Clearwater National Forest Travel Plan" in the subject line and be certain to include your name and address at the end of the comments. A return email address is NOT sufficient! (FS often discards "anonymous" email comments.) Copy the text below and paste into your email.
Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader
Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station
Rt. 2 Box 191
Kamiah, ID 83536
I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions in the Alternative development and please also include a full discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a true range of management Alternatives, including one "action" alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current motorized and mountain bike opportunity.
Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service, the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness Areas (RWAs)?
Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs?
Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would disqualify an area from being a RWA?
Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures, maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness?

wr250f95 · 02-19-2008, 12:56 PM

will do sir

tjscott2012 · 02-21-2008, 04:09 PM

so where are these closed acres?

JThompson · 02-21-2008, 11:42 PM

IF you want all the details you would have to ask the BRC

02-19-2008, 12:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,819	New Comment Deadline On U.s. Forest Service Attempt To Implement An Unlawful "de-fact NEW COMMENT DEADLINE ON U.S. FOREST SERVICE ATTEMPT TO IMPLEMENT AN UNLAWFUL "DE-FACTO WILDERNESS" POLICY A few years ago, a small select group of employees in the U.S. Forest Service in Missoula, Montana developed an unlawful, de-facto Wilderness policy designed to close 1.3 million acres to all mountain bike, snowmobile and OHV use. *1.3 million acres of de-facto Wilderness established in the dead of the night, with a stroke of a pen, and without any public involvement.* Idaho's Clearwater National Forest is the first individual Forest in Region 1 (in northern Idaho and Montana) that has attempted site-specific implementation of the de-facto Wilderness policy. But it won't be the last. We need your help. Please read the Action Alert below and take action today! SITUATION: The comment period deadline on the draft winter and summer Travel Plan for the Clearwater National Forest is set for February 29, 2008. This is the first time a National Forest in Region 1 has attempted site-specific implementation of their new (and unlawful) de-facto Wilderness policy. COMMENTS ARE URGENTLY NEEDED! WHY THIS IS SO IMPORTANT: What De-Facto Wilderness Means to You: Clearwater NF RWA: 200,000 acres Number of acres of snowmobiling closed = 200,000 acres Miles of single track motorcycle trails closed = 140 miles Miles of mountain bike trails closed = UNKNOWN Beaverhead-Deerlodge RWA: 174,000 acres Gallatin NF RWA: 180,000 acres Lewis & Clark RWA: 56,000 acres Lolo NF RWA: 216,000 acres Kooteni NF RWA: 117,000 acres Idaho Panhandle NF RWA: 138,000 acres Helena NF RWA: 34,000 acres Flathead NF RWA: 93,000 acres Custer NF RWA: 19.000 acres Bitterroot NF RWA: 76,000 acres TOTAL CLOSED = 1,303,000 ACRES Warning: Information above is estimated. Actual acreage figures are likely to increase when new Forest Plans become final. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO: Send a simple email comment to the Clearwater. Here is a link to Clearwater's Travel Plan webpage: http://www.fs.fed.us/r1/clearwater/Projects/TravPlan/ClwTravel.htm The email address is: comments-northern-clearwater@fs.fed.us IMPORTANT: Put "Comments on Clearwater National Forest Travel Plan" in the subject line and be certain to include your name and address at the end of the comments. A return email address is NOT sufficient! (FS often discards "anonymous" email comments.) Copy the text below and paste into your email. Lois Foster, Travel Plan Interdisciplinary Team Leader Lochsa Ranger District, Kamiah Ranger Station Rt. 2 Box 191 Kamiah, ID 83536 I would like to make the following comments on the Clearwater National Forest Travel Plan. The comment is made using the "issues in the form of questions" format. Please consider these questions in the Alternative development and please also include a full discussion of each question in the EIS. I also request the EIS include a discussion and brief analysis of previous Congressional Wilderness designations so the public may understand how the existence of motorized uses actually impacts Congress's ability to designate Wilderness. I also request that the Clearwater provide a true range of management Alternatives, including one "action" alternative that, at the very minimum, does not reduce the current motorized and mountain bike opportunity. Question 1) In Montana Wilderness Assoc. v. U.S. Forest Service, the U.S. District Court of Montana found that Congress required the Forest Service to strike--and maintain--a balance between wilderness character and motorized use in WSAs established by that Act. Given that Congress envisioned motorized uses in Wilderness Study Areas they established, what is the Forest Service's rationale for excluding motorized uses in Recommended Wilderness Areas (RWAs)? Question 2) If the existence of motorized uses does not preclude an area from being designated as an RWA, then what is the Forest Service's rationale for eliminating motorized uses in RWAs? Question 3) What level of motorized or mountain bike use would disqualify an area from being a RWA? Question 4) In the Eastern Wilderness Act, Congress designated areas Wilderness that contained motorized uses, structures, maintained roads and even sections of paved roads. Has the Forest Service studied the level of motorized uses that actually precludes Congress from designating an area as Wilderness? __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

02-19-2008, 12:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
wr250f95 Super Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: New Mexico Posts: 7,657	will do sir __________________ "LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING'...HOLY S**T... WHAT A RIDE!" this, is why I ride.

02-21-2008, 04:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
tjscott2012 The Spam man Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Hurley, Mo Posts: 4,636	so where are these closed acres? __________________ check it out... http://springfield.craigslist.org/mcy/915523607.html

02-21-2008, 11:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
JThompson Administrator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bellingham WA Posts: 4,819	IF you want all the details you would have to ask the BRC __________________ Tired of ads? Become a member for an almost ad free site! Also we give away monthly prizes just for posting! Register today! Looking for places to ride! Want to review a riding area? Check them out! PRE-ORDER MOTOTIPS Stickers now. Help keep mototips running! Get your order in today! Buy NOW! Special Discounts for members only! Check out our new discount forum for retailers offering to help you save money! Mototips Discounts

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