the 09 yz's

[wr250f95]

Originally Posted by tjscott2012

what in the hell are you talking about wr? you think 2 strokes shoot out black specs? you are dead wrong, something tells me youve never ridden a properly tuned 2 stroke, considering you werent happy with an 01 cr125, theres not a spec of oil anywhere on my bike, except for a little spot on the subframe from where my old silencer fell apart.
and i would love you to show me a positive thread i started about 2 strokes where i stated they were much better than four strokes, except for this one of course.
your still not making sense, stating 2 strokes are (dirty) which they arent, doesnt justify the fact that your 4 stroke is hurting the environment more than my 2 stroke is.
i just ran my finger down my exhaust, know what i got? a hair and some dust. the only part of my exhaust that has any spooge on it whatsoever is the very tip, which was my fault for running 32:1
oh, and the xr, need we go over how much power it makes?
theres a reason they seperated those

they do, you cant jet it out of them, we tried.
you must not ride your bike at all then, that or its starved for oil
I wasnt happy with the 01 cr125, most people I know that have ridden it think its junk as well, all owners should visit www.wheresmypowerband.com
so explain to me how my four stroke is hurting the environment? Im not the one running around burning oil all the time, its the nature of the beast, oil is in the gas, gas is what gets burnt, oil in gas also gets burnt, oil does not burn clean.
and actually based on earlier posts by you, you hurt the enviro more than anyone i know, dumping oil on the ground, breaking batteries open so you can clean your bike etc etc.

an xr250r makes exactly 18 hp in stock trim, need we go over how its an xr that has more wins in the baja 1000 than any other bike in history? although not a 250, it is an xr.

[BansheeRider]

Originally Posted by gscx

jesus, why are we arguing about this, the answer is obvious. A four stroke is better, a 250f having the same lap times as a 250 two stroke?that explains itself and thats all that needs to be said. But there will alaways be a company that makes a two stroke, not everyone wants a 4 stroke and KTM seems to be the only company that knows that, so they will reap the profits. Yamaha doesnt even update their bikes anymore. And stop arguing about the oil issue, ALL bikes make pollution it doesnt matter if one bike makes more than the other. Because these are CLOSED COURSE MACHINES. EPA does not regulate their emmisions. And what honda and all of those manufacturers said about not making 2 strokes anymore was an excuse to avoid public backlash about not making them anymore

you know, theres more to a bike than its lap times, frankly if your so concerned about it i dont see why you arent on a 450.
someone should start a thread about how much fun 2 strokes are.
wr and tigs arguements were that the 2 strokes burned oil and were bad for the environment, so i pointed out to wr that a 4 stroke uses much more oil and the oil that is burned from it burns dirtier than premix, but wr doesnt seem to accept it.
and BULL**** i used the same epa doesnt regulate emissions arguement a couple days ago at blasterforum expecting to get backed, but you disagreed.

[BansheeRider]

Originally Posted by wr250f95

they do, you cant jet it out of them, we tried.
you must not ride your bike at all then, that or its starved for oil
I wasnt happy with the 01 cr125, most people I know that have ridden it think its junk as well, all owners should visit www.wheresmypowerband.com
so explain to me how my four stroke is hurting the environment? Im not the one running around burning oil all the time, its the nature of the beast, oil is in the gas, gas is what gets burnt, oil in gas also gets burnt, oil does not burn clean.
and actually based on earlier posts by you, you hurt the enviro more than anyone i know, dumping oil on the ground, breaking batteries open so you can clean your bike etc etc.

an xr250r makes exactly 18 hp in stock trim, need we go over how its an xr that has more wins in the baja 1000 than any other bike in history? although not a 250, it is an xr.

OH MY GOD DUDE!!!
do you not get what im saying at all? my 2 stroke burns oil all the time, ya, i get it.
but YOU burn dirtier oil in larger quantities causing even more damage to the environment than my 2 stroke does
and no i dont care about the environment, but im just showing you that you are wrong because that was your arguement. and your it400 is probably just dirty inside, considering your running the original top end, who knows whats going on inside there, have you even cleaned your pipe ever?


was there even anything better when the xr won? yah, probably not

[gscx]

i think i said the same thing at blasterforums too lol. I think thier website is down or something. Ill post on the two stroke militia website how even they say the EPA doesnt regulate them, i couldnt find it when i said that at blasterforums. And i did start a thread about how much fun a 125 is, so its pretty much the same thing as how much fun two strokes are. And i am concerned about lap times, im alot faster on a 125 than i am on a 250f, 450s usally have some of the slowest lap times in the hands of a novice rider

Two Stroke Militia
And dont look at the injections stuff and all, im just posting this to prove that the EPA does not regulate closed course racing

[BansheeRider]

be back in 10, leave me something else to argue about

[wr250f95]

Originally Posted by tjscott2012

you know, theres more to a bike than its lap times, frankly if your so concerned about it i dont see why you arent on a 450.
someone should start a thread about how much fun 2 strokes are.
wr and tigs arguements were that the 2 strokes burned oil and were bad for the environment, so i pointed out to wr that a 4 stroke uses much more oil and the oil that is burned from it burns dirtier than premix, but wr doesnt seem to accept it.
and BULL**** i used the same epa doesnt regulate emissions arguement a couple days ago at blasterforum expecting to get backed, but you disagreed.

your the one whos whining like a little bitch that even though your bike burns oil whenever it runs, in addition to the tranny fluid, that a 4t still uses more, it does not compute.
on the pro level lap times are all that count, 1/10th of a second seperates championships, they need every advantage they can get, they ride 4strokes.
so even though the epa doesnt regulate it, the 2strokes arent being used in sx or mx.
they are however, being used in woods racing, where most riders like the light weight, and the quick burst of power that comes with them, however, there are some Jason Raines, who excel on 4strokes.

theres no way in hell a 2stroke is cleaner than a 4stroke, if they were, dont you think toyota would be building a 2stroke car?

[wr250f95]

Originally Posted by tjscott2012

OH MY GOD DUDE!!!
do you not get what im saying at all? my 2 stroke burns oil all the time, ya, i get it.
but YOU burn dirtier oil in larger quantities causing even more damage to the environment than my 2 stroke does
and no i dont care about the environment, but im just showing you that you are wrong because that was your arguement. and your it400 is probably just dirty inside, considering your running the original top end, who knows whats going on inside there, have you even cleaned your pipe ever?


was there even anything better when the xr won? yah, probably not

sigh........
you dont get it do you? it doesnt matter that I burn my oil, its not going to catch up with a 2stroke which burns oil constantly, then you have tranny fluid, you burn through a quart of pre mix in about what, 2 tanks of fuel? maybe 3? your constantly burning oil, my little 1 1/2 quarts is gone quick, start a 2stroke in a closed room, a 4stroke in the one next to it, and see which bike you can still see, your truly not understanding this, how i can i simplify it enough?

2stroke= constantly burning oil, has tranny oil that is changed as well

4 stroke= when its running perfectly, no smoke from the burning of oil, oil gets changed every 5 hours, then is gone, meanwhile the 2stroke is still putting out oil from simply running, and its tranny fluid is also burned.


I take care of my shit, I work 2 jobs just so I can take care of them, and for your information, I have cleaned the pipe out, it was filthy, like a 2stroke, it burns oil for petes sake, and guess what? the engine is sound, no knocks, perfect, compression is right where it should be, thats according to a compression tester, not my leg.

and fyi, the xr was winning as late as 06, when honda forced campbell off of it and on to a 450x, and its still favorited by most as the ultimate desert tool

[gscx]

yea, the XR 650 was a frigging beast, i would kill for that bike really

[wr250f95]

well it speaks volumes for honda.
forcing a rider off of the bike of his choice so that the bike that costs more to maintain looks better.

[gscx]

yea in know, Kawasaki did it too James Stewart when he was riding a 125, they told him ride the 250f or you are done. But its the riders fault. They should stand up too these companies. Another team will alaways pick them up